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  • #113759 |
    Customer
    268 Posts

    Protective stops order on entry bar is very necessary.

     

    This protective stop will be applied on the bar of entry, rather than waiting until the close of the bar like most orders.

     

    Without this stops order, trades would be a disaster some time. The loss may be more greater than the average.

     

     

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    #130691
    Customer
    557 Posts

    Hi,

     

    Sorry, I don’t understand what this means?  Perhaps you could explain a bit further?

     

    Thanks,

     

    Mike

    #130693
    Moderator
    1559 Posts

    If you enter market using market order, it should be filled immediately. With pre-defined stop-loss and/or profit-target orders these should be active too as soon as parent order is filled

    #130694
    Customer
    557 Posts

    You can’t do that with ECN brokers, you have to place the order to market and then modify the order with the stop and profit levels.  With bucket shops they will allow it when you place the order because they are making the market.

    #130695
    Customer
    268 Posts

    I do agree with tomas262.

     

    If we don’t set stop order on entry bar, when we enter a long position at open price, and a  negative bar happened. The strategy could only exit long position next bar at open, even the  range of the bar that we entered recently is very very huge. You would suffer a great loss.

     

    I not sure about forex trading. Multicharts/TS have “setstoploss” , “setprofitarget”.   The SetStopLoss function allows you to generate orders and exit on the same bar as the bar of entry, this is especially useful when working with longer during bars, (e.g. 30-min, 60-min, daily, weekly, monthly).

     

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    #130702
    Customer
    432 Posts

    You can´t set a StopLoss on MT4 along with the order when using a market order – this simply is not possible on a ECN broker which most MT4 brokers are these days. This only works with STOP / LIMIT orders in MT4, there you can attach the SL to the main order already and SQ does exactly that absolutely fine. However, SQ, when entering via a market order, set´s the StopLoss too just a second later in a separate modification to the initial order that was just opened, it will not wait until the next bar! It´s all functioning absolutely fine and as intended, nothing to worry about. I trade several strategies that were generated by SQ via MT4 and that use market orders, each time the order is opened, the EA attaches a StopLoss to it half a second later, which is exactly how this is supposed to work and the only way this can work. The EA will not wait to set the SL until the next bar. If it does that, you are doing something wrong:)

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