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  • #268628 |
    Customer
    43 Posts

    I am having success using 1 minute to 15 minute timeframes. It provides the volume of trades required to get certainty of profit and likely drawdown over multiple years. The strategies that I am about to go live with are getting 12-18 trades per week per currency pair and I am about to launch with 6 currency pairs.

    I am a big believer in using trading hours to refine a strategy. Finding that the same hours of trading are the most profitable across multiple currency pairs provides validation for the strategy and trading timeframes. I am getting results within 2-3+ profit factor range and a sharpe ratio of 5+ across the 6 pairs using the exact same strategy with the only modifications that I have optimized being stop loss settings, otherwise they are identical across each pair.

    Note that I am starting with an idea of a strategy for what I am trying to create in Algowizard, i.e. breakout, range trading, swing trading, momentum continuation etc, then looking at charts to find combinations of indicators to define what I am trying to achieve on charts, for ideal entries and exits then backtesting that strategy. I personally don’t see much point in testing random combinations of indicators, hoping to find one that works through sheer volume of testing.

    #268670
    ivan
    Participant
    223 Posts

    how many net pips does a good strategy like that make?

    Timisoara, Romania
    3900X 3.8 Ghz 12 cores, 64GB RAM DDR4 3000Mhz, Samsung 970 EVO Plus M.2 NVMe

    #268677
    Customer
    43 Posts

    how many net pips does a good strategy like that make?

    Looking to average 350 pips per week total across 6 pairs from 80-90 trades each week. Historically that is how it has performed on average the last 3 years.

    #268689
    ivan
    Participant
    223 Posts

    by 6 pairs you mean 6 individual EAs or strategies ?

    the number you gave, would translate into aprox 166 pips/month per strategy which is very good given the lowest timeframes which are notorious difficult. My record was a strategy on XAUUSD on H1 which had 480 pips/month on many relevant months. Anything below 30 pips/month i throw away

    i never tried lower timeframes than M15 and even M15, only on a few pairs but i will generate in the near future

    Timisoara, Romania
    3900X 3.8 Ghz 12 cores, 64GB RAM DDR4 3000Mhz, Samsung 970 EVO Plus M.2 NVMe

    #268690
    Customer
    788 Posts

    i am using mostly M15-H4 TFs on those basic pairs – EU, EJ, UJ, GJ,GU and GOLD

    every market behaves differently, some markets could be in a loss for whole year

    You want to be a profitable algotrader? We started using StrateQuant software in early 2016. For now we have a very big knowhow for building EAs for every possible types of markets. We share this knowhow, apps, tools and also all final strategies with real traders. If you want to join us, fill in the FORM. 1500+ final SQX strategies for members running on demo accounts to verify the edge DEMO ACCS. We provide also strategies for indices - DAX, DOW JONES, NASDAQ, SP, UK, because we have realtick data from our brokers.

    #268691
    Customer
    43 Posts

    by 6 pairs you mean 6 individual EAs or strategies ? the number you gave, would translate into aprox 166 pips/month per strategy which is very good given the lowest timeframes which are notorious difficult. My record was a strategy on XAUUSD on H1 which had 480 pips/month on many relevant months. Anything below 30 pips/month i throw away i never tried lower timeframes than M15 and even M15, only on a few pairs but i will generate in the near future

    Yes 166 pips/month per pair on 1 EA is correct. The exact same EA gives great results on all 6 pairs.

    My just developed EA was profitable in M1, M5 and M15 in most of those pairs, but M1 was the standout, so that is all that I am trading. On all 6 pairs the equity curves I have been getting in backtesting have been fantastic.

    I just started using SQ 3 weeks ago, will add other strategies as I find them. Ideally I want EAs that are each individually profitable and will give profits in any market condition. When a range trading EA is performing badly, have a trending EA that performs great at the same time, to avoid drawdown. Currently I am only opening trades 6 hours a day, so would be great to have systems that work on the other hours as well.

     

    #268818
    Customer
    43 Posts

    Congratulations Alan on coming 4th in the Darwinex table this month and a nice capital allocation through that.

    #268827
    Participant
    39 Posts

    you just caught corona virus moves and trends

     

    #268839
    Customer
    71 Posts

    my experience or story is far worse than allan lee’s and its possible that i will scare off beginners, that’s why i hesitated to write after some 3 years of generating and testing, i failed to make a single euro or eurocent, not even recover some of the investments, not to mention real profit my best strategies were on timeframes ranging from M15 to H4. The daily timeframe is the only one i haven’t generated because simply forward testing on such huge timeframe, takes years the pairs are in descending order of profitability: XAUUSD, GBPJPY and GBPUSD. Some very isolated cases, insignificant on EURUSD, USDCHF. The best strategies tested for several months until some 20 closed trades, had 65 – 100 pips/trade and an average of 150 – 450 pips/month. Other less profitable which i kept, had some 30 – 50 pips/trade and 100 – 200 pips/month. Below this line, any strategy is garbage. The number of final working strategies were 10 – 12, at the end of a complete generation process on most of forex pairs and timeframes. If we assume a ratio of 1 EUR/100 pips, that in theory would be translated into 30 EUR/month (3 EUR/strategy x 10 strategies). This ratio of 1 EUR/100 pips would be reasonable for most small beginner accounts with volumes of 0.01 and medium leverage. In theory, such a trading portfolio would double the account every 8 – 10 months. This is on paper, because in real life, there were always unexpected or unplanned hiccups unrelated to SQ software, like a broker deleting the history or unexplained differences in behavior. I use this unit of measure, pips/trade or pips/year because its the easiest for beginners to grasp and to convert of all. Once you input the leverage and volume, you can easily convert this in exact sum for every trade. This post and what i wrote is by no means a negative review of the software itself but a warning for not all beginners but for those who underestimate the complexity of trading itself and those who seek rapid and easy profit. I can assure them that this is not one of those solutions.

    I’m sorry to hear this but it’s definitely true that it’s not as easy as clicking a few buttons and getting a working strategy. You have to be really harsh in your selection process with StrategyQuant.. only after selecting the best ones, there’s still no guarantee.. you have to test it in your broker to see if it executes and similar to the backtest results you are seeing.

    In StrategyQuant, I test with multiple data sets.. import historical data from your broker, use the Dukascopy and another reference. If the backtests graphs don’t look similar, immediately discard. All my strategies are relatively simple.. I don’t select too many options for the criteria.. just 1 or 2 indicators max and I’m using orders to get in and out. Also keep away from the smaller timeframes…M1 and M5.. dont’ usually work. M15 I’ve had success with and H1. Also about 1/3 of my testing is out of sample. Also don’t expect your algos to last forever.. at some point they will fail, your job is to identify when this is and replace with another that you’re testing in the background. You know when they are failing as they are not performing as per your backtest results… ie no. of wins to losses, trading frequency etc.

     

    #268840
    Customer
    71 Posts

    you just caught corona virus moves and trends

    TBH that’s the whole point.. you generate algos that work across a variety of conditions.. my portfolio is a mix of algos which work in trend and non-trend situations.

    Right now, the ones which are doing most of the trading are the trending and breakout ones… the others are in the account not doing much. Once the trends stop being trends, I’m expecting the reversion strategies will kick in and the trending ones will sit it out!

    #268841
    Customer
    71 Posts

    Congratulations Alan on coming 4th in the Darwinex table this month and a nice capital allocation through that.

    Thank you Matt.. this is actually the 4th allocation of funding from Darwinex now bringing me to 197k euro allocation!

    #268850
    Customer
    43 Posts

    you just caught corona virus moves and trends

    TBH that’s the whole point.. you generate algos that work across a variety of conditions.. my portfolio is a mix of algos which work in trend and non-trend situations. Right now, the ones which are doing most of the trading are the trending and breakout ones… the others are in the account not doing much. Once the trends stop being trends, I’m expecting the reversion strategies will kick in and the trending ones will sit it out!

    Thats what I am working towards. I have some great non-trending EAs that scalp ranges. Now need to work out some great trending EAs, so they balance each other out.

    #269378
    Customer
    24 Posts

    Hi Alan,

    Just for curiosity, what tests (e.g. Monte Carlo, Slippage, WFM,…) are involved to generate your strategies?

    #270742
    Participant
    1 Posts

    Hi,

    great stuff, thanks for sharing and also for mentioning the hard work that is required

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